It's always nice to know I'm not alone. At first I had the concern that I was setting them up for "failure" in this world. The more I think about it, they should be able to use these skills better than I can because I was not taught about the real workings of people and the world, I had to learn the hard way. I consider my military experience as "walking through the valley of the shadow of death", valley of the shadow of death being the military itself and government it represents along with the overlords above them.

Unfortunately they vote, at least a lot of them vote. Fortunately most/some of us vote too. We're currently about 50:50 in the US today, proven by the Historical November 2016 elections. How we all vote in the future will determine if the Millennials get what they think they want based on no particular knowledge of the truth nor all of the limited and biased history they have been taught, the rest they ignore. Perhaps part of God's plan for us saves us from this dilemma, we just die off and everyone else gets what they think they want. So be it, if they want socialism/communism, or any of the other ism's out there, that's exactly what they will eventually get. The world is actually a true democracy, the majority rules, even in North Korea. Of course if you want to survive for a lifetime there you really have no other choice, therefore a democracy. It could/might even happen here. Nah, not as long as I'm alive, even though my opinion hardly counts, but it does (sometimes) influence my children.

"I then had to tell her not to do that, take what I say and prove it to yourself. If you find something different then bring it to me and we can discuss it and maybe I will have to change one of my axioms."

Did the same with my four children. It took some time and struggling, but they got there and now they are rational critical thinkers and on "our side".

"if they knew of Aristotle" The reply may be "Is he in our school class?' or "Is that a new 'music' band?"

Do agree.

THE PROBLEM IS THE GOVERNMENT OF THE U.S.A. I personally do not see any changes in the offing. The country IS in a downward spiral and nobody or very few care.

To be fair, how can Millennials without honest teachers who are not idealogues hope to learn anything of value let alone Truth? The system has created this sad group that were turned into mindless robot "Snow Flakes". Truly! It is not their fault that they have been exploited by the Allinsky/Gramsci, Progressive Left (I.e., the modern Democrat party).

If they were taught how to think instead of what to think, they could become our greatest generation. Aristotle must be turning in his grave by what is transpiring in Public Education and especiall "Higher" education!

Time to get Gramsci and Allinsky out (or at least give equal time to de Toqueville, Murray Rothbard and the truly great thinkers who taught Truth and gave their students the opportunity to think for themselves!

Truth be told......

Not just that, but the school system run by the government is neither excellence nor knowledge drive, but instead driven by the fear of lawsuits, political correctness, and the whole babysitter mentality they feel is their job.

Years ago I had a friend who was a teacher, Jr High and HS level, and he gave it up because he had teenagers fighting tin the back of the room, others having intercourse a bit more intense than just social, and a system that told him if he didn't follow THEIR party line and inability to enforce discipline, he was not only subject to termination, but prosecution.
Those kids that WANT to learn face not only social pressures to be one of the cool f***-ups or be ostracized, but similar pressures by the school administration itself, who are more worried about what a child WEARS than what a child LEARNS... and that each represents not our future, but a chunk of that free money they get for their spending barrel, that is little johnny doesn't show up to learn nothing but deviant behavior, they get less in their feeding trough.

Aristotelian logic requires questioning statements to determine the facts (today called "fact checking"). It's ironic that a generation that marched under the banner "Question Authority" now demand unquestioning acceptance of declarations by certain media and political figures without asking if they're true. The danger in this is that we now have a media that presents rumor, innuendo, and gossip as fact, counting on their followers to believe them without question.

Children used to be taught how to think. Today they're taught what to think, and questioning is not tolerated, with the questioning student subject to bullying into submission. After years of being instilled in the idea that questioning results in punishment, it's no wonder that young people fear hearing statements that contradict what they've been told is truth, and demand "safe spaces" where they can hide from unacceptable thoughts.

In view of the fact that millennials are products of the government schools means they were crippled before they had a chance to get an education to even comprehend the word philosophy let a lone a rational philosophy. if you were to go into the street and ask any of them if they knew of Aristotle was they would not have a clue. seeing someone like Watter ask modern day question yield answers proving how dumb the youth of America is!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree completely, you can't count on the school. I was just speaking about the overall education of the masses. I supplement as much as I can, but being divorced where I only see my kids maybe 20% of the year makes that difficult. I have simply taught my kids to question everything. My daughter told me that I am the only person who teaches them things outside of school. Then she said she would believe everything I say. I then had to tell her not to do that, take what I say and prove it to yourself. If you find something different then bring it to me and we can discuss it and maybe I will have to change one of my axioms. I just hope that they can navigate the world of today without being used or taken advantage of. It is getting harder and harder to find the truth. Plus, their mother is liberal minded mainly due to laziness. I mean how can you donate your time campaigning for this: http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/clinton-de...

The reason my daughter said she would believe everything I say is because I don't shelter them from the truth about this world and the atrocities in it. If it is conspiracy fact I will give them the proof, if it is conspiracy theory I will tell them that and show them where the problem remains unsolved. I am a logic person. I studied mathematics so I reason with them constantly and challenge them to reason or think critically for themselves. Sadly they preface most of the problems that weigh on their minds by saying, "please don't tell mom about this, but..." That is what really weighs on my mind.

"They are force feed crap and then they have to regurgitate for a test, "
I think in the post-WWII period baby boomers absorbed the message that a rising tide lifts all boats. Get good grades, get to a good job, climb the ladder, and prosperity comes to you. Peter Thiel touches on this in Zero to One.

"the elite will always be elite because private schools don't teach you to hate learning, only public schools do that."
I used to think that, but I do not count on it anymore. I had a bad experience with a moderately expensive private school four our kids. My new idea is changes in management or the teacher could at any moment cause the school to get better or worse. We don't count on the school. We do a lot of supplementing. It's so important to talk to them about what they learned in school today. At private, public, and camps, they have taught things I disagree with and agree with. I no longer expect them to go to a place that doesn't have people who say things that are wrong, just as I don't expect all clients, vendors, and employees to make sense to me. They're learning that early.

I think it is that they are not trained on how to think critically. They are force feed crap and then they have to regurgitate for a test, they pass with flying colors. They grow up increasingly hating school and hating learning until they get out and then they don't want to learn anymore and won't learn anymore. Some will pick up hobbies they enjoy and will learn how to think for themselves in that fashion, some will be challenged by their parents as I am doing, and the elite will always be elite because private schools don't teach you to hate learning, only public schools do that.

A society encouraged to be all caught up in their feelings is what Ayn Rand predicted in Atlas Shrugged.
Snowflakes being laughed at if at least by some gives old dino some hope. Some.
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I think it's the hovering parent hypothesis. I do not see evidence, at least in my anecdotal experience, of a decrease in morals. In fact, millennials seem remarkably disciplined about avoiding junk food and trying to do the right thing. They seem to have as strong a moral code as I remember kids having in the 90s.

I think the issue is hovering parents. My guess on the cause is before it was easy to get 24/7 kids' programming on TV, parents sent their kids out to play where they learned to interact with others and take care of minor problems and disputes on their own. Now it's easier for kids to stay in and watch TV or video games. There are fewer kids out, making it less fun and more risky for kids to go out. So parents keep them in. I would have driven my parents crazy, but today there is so much programming and games available nearly for free that kids are pacified for long periods of time. The first generation of young people raised this way are now young adults.