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Antifa

Posted by richrobinson 6 years, 8 months ago to The Gulch: General
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Is Antifa exercising free speech or are they a terrorist organization? While I think there are times when violence may be justified or even necessary this group just seems to be out to create chaos.


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  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah. I wonder. I'd like to hear some of these "protestors" give their definition of what a fascist is. Doubt they have a clue.
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  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One of the most disgusting things was how the media was protecting them. I guess this is all a result of not properly teaching history in the public schools.
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  • Posted by NealS 6 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If the North Koreans ever send a missile over here we can only hope it hits an area like Berkeley. Then we can retaliate against North Korea and take out their leaders. Two problems solved.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 6 years, 8 months ago
    They are shutting others up by force; that is clearly not an act of free speech on their part.

    They are also making examples of conservatives, and of fans of speakers such as Milo, Ben Shapiro, and Ann Coulter, both by actual violence and by falsely smearing them all as Nazis, in the hope that no one will dare turn out to hear those speakers again. That is clearly terrorism.

    The problem that bothers me more is that the police in these places regularly stand down, rather than help the victims of this terrorism. As far as I'm concerned this is not only a violation of the social contract, it is an act of war against the American people and therefore treason.

    How many times does this have to happen before we're justified in using some police-level force of our own? I'd say we already are.

    (And here I must disagree with wmiranda. When the Berkeley police frisked and disarmed right-wingers before standing down they were committing even worse treason. The victims of Antifa can do those people no wrong. The sides are not equal; only one has initiated force.)
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  • Posted by starznbarz 6 years, 8 months ago
    They are the latest reincarnation of the communist party. Communist changed to progressive democrat, prog to occupy, occupy to antifa, and let` s not forget the militant arm of the whole crew blm - with the terrorist faction of them being TNBPP. Nothing has changed in the march to destroy capitalism and true Liberty except what Americas enemies call themselves. Simple research shows the same crew referenced at every "protest" - world workers party - (guess who!) The co founder of blm inadvertently let the cat out of the sack in an interview last week, she listed all the "evils" of America, near the top was "capitalism" what more do we need to know? Damn shame no 'journalist" can work up the nerve to ask any prominent democrat on the Sunday shows how they justify associating the dnc with documented communist actions in the form of black lives matter...
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  • Posted by wmiranda 6 years, 8 months ago
    Barkley Mayor now backtracking after allegedly ordering Police to stand down, or hold back, or give Antifa room during the last riot there. Now he wants Antifa to be declared a gang according to California law. Hypocrite. He received a lot of criticism after the multitude of videos of violent attacks by Antifa were disseminated. Even Frick and Frack from Morning Joe had to admit Antifa is a violent organization. At Morning Joe the expressions were the same as election night when Trump won the elections.

    Protesting and free speech are one thing but inciting and engaging in violence against anyone who disagrees is not. Otherwise, forget elections every 4 years and let's just have an ad hoc insurrection. Whoever wins is the boss.

    Anyone showing up with mask and urban combat gear and weapons to a protest is not intent on engaging in free speech. Rather, committing violence against those they disagree with at the time. Those showing up dressed as such, should be turned away by police or arrested if they resist the police. Those conspiring with Antifa, like politicians, MSM encouragement, funding, should be charge for any damage caused by such groups. This is true for any other group with such intent.

    Sounds like the opposite of an ideal free society, but a free society without responsibility and obedience to the rule of law is not a free society at all. It's anarchy.

    The more we find out about these incidents with such groups like Antifa, the more evident it becomes that Trump was right after the riot in Virginia when he condemn the "many sides". Time has proven him right, AGAIN. People like Gary Cohen, and goat republicans, who took the opportunity to bash Trump were wrong, AGAIN.

    Like j_IR1776wg wrote quoting Lenin, these individuals have had, not 4 but 8 years of indoctrination.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would like to know if there is a core group of faces that keep showing up in different places to incite the mobs.

    In some cases I wonder what mommy and daddy would think of spending all that tuition on little Suzy or Johnny only to have them "outed" with a potential jail cell as a future.

    I also wonder if that airport tech that can get an image through clothing could be made portable enough to capture the little darlings faces without even having to touch them.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. Violence as a coercive effort is unjustified; violence in self-defense is another matter entirely.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 8 months ago
    They are a group no different from the thugs Hitler used in the 30's. They are the Fascists - at least according to their own definition of them.They appear from out of town, raise hell and disappear and melt back into the herd shedding their black clothing and masks. They are the paid help. Their qualifications for the job is being cowards and bullies.Despicable. Gee, I wonder who is paying them?
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  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The far left can see this tearing the country apart and they seem to be sitting on the sidelines. Bernie Sanders is rather quiet. Obama and Hillary haven't said much.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 6 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is entirely possible that a rabble like this, given that their faces are covered, will step away from the control of their handlers and do embarrassing and stupid things like assault members of the press. The mass are probably not aware that they even have handlers.
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  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am afraid that they are setting things up to make some kind of bold statement. Bombing a Trump rally perhaps.
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  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly. That makes them anarchists or a terrorist organization. If they attack a KKK group the KKK would be justified in defending themselves.
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  • Posted by natvbaby 6 years, 8 months ago
    I see them as a terrorist organization. As many times as they are protesting on their own with no reason to have to be violent and they still are violent and breaking the law via destruction of property. They want to half free speech. I literally saw a video this morning of one of the ANTIFA groups chanting "No Trump, No Wall, No USA at all" so you tell me. They are nothing but thugs that want to hide their identity.

    Plus if I am to continue on this for the Charlottesville, VA issue, there were many witnesses that saw KKK, Neo-Nazis, BLM and ANTIFA all getting off the same busses. So to me this is all organized to make it seem worse than it is. I believe all of them are bad and I believe they all need to be shut down. You cannot be a true American and honestly think you are better than anyone else that lives here no matter color, creed or religion. Do we need to be careful who we let in yes we do. Do we need to vet those who are coming in yes. Should we be letting other people in and yet we cannot even help ourselves my answer is a resounding NO because we are literally heading towards Atlas Shrugged take from those who work hard to give to those who don't want to work at all and everyone gets the same no matter if they work or not. So in my opinion, they are thugs and are just out for Violence they don't have a real message except to hurt anyone who disagrees with them.

    Simply said we are either in Idiocracy or Atlas Shrugged and at this point both are not where we should be.
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  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are similarities. I hope they continue to attack the press. Maybe they will start doing their jobs.
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  • Posted by 6 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Bernie Sanders was a warning in my opinion. The fact that a Socialist got so much support especially among the younger voters is frightening.
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