"intra-ship beaming"
So they did it on the second week of the show, and gratuitously. Darn it! I'll still pay for anything with the Star Trek name.

"yes the harping on "racism" was not Trek like."
The people bring up the issue of race turned out to be dead wrong. The admiral did it in a rude way apparently intended to make the audience not care when he died. So it was not harping on race.

"I would hope that in 200 years that we look at race the same way: "
Yes. Give it time. It's only a few hundred years, a blink of an eye, since the world got smaller. The implicit bias test shows we're still dealing with it. At some point it will be like the Assyrian Empire's affairs or Punic Wars. They were probably so contentious even educated people struggled with them, but now they're ancient history.

CG. You are deluded.

When people hate themselves they find it easy to
hate others no reason in their mindless unconscious heads is needed.

"I would hope that in 200 years that we look at race the same way: "Why does anyone care what color someone's skin is" "
I agree. Both current major political parties will have to die before this can occur.

I thought Enterprise had a design that one could believe was earlier. I didn't like Phlox and the "natural cures" as an advanced technology. I felt it was a bit of an anti-science new age intrusion onto Trek. The character was fine. Star Trek is supposed to be "gosh wow" science, not slugs.

And, yes the harping on "racism" was not Trek like. I mean the original Trek had the racist episode with the half black half white people who hated each other if based on which half was black. The crew of the Enterprise didn't harp on racism, they just were completely puzzled as to why someone would care. I would hope that in 200 years that we look at race the same way: "Why does anyone care what color someone's skin is" Although there may be some speciesist thinking but that wouldn't be
racism.

Thanks ;)

"perhaps a hint due to Klingon nationalism."
I thought the same thing, but I then I thought all references to nationalism are not about anyone nationalist figure. It reminded me of The Lexus and the Olive Tree. All these foreigners, he implied, are making them lose their cultural and religious heritage. The way he evoked the Klingon religion felt very un-like President Trump, who is not particularly religious and certainly does not himself as a religious icon inspired directly by Jesus.

There's a stronger case the the protagonist, Michael Burnham, is closer to how I imagine Trump supporters see themselves. She lost her parents in a sneak attack by the Klingons. She says they need to prepare to fight the Klingons because fighting is all they understand. She is rebuked.
1. The admiral accuses her of racism, even though she's trying to talk about culture. They keep saying she's racist.
2. The admiral arrogantly says she ought to be more sensitive to racial minorities since her physical features are consistent with a racial group treated as an underclass hundreds of years ago.
3. Her captain says she's been hurt by the sneak attack and just wants revenge.
4. Even though she turns out to be correct, the Klingons were preparing a sneak-attack, no one acknowledges it.

If there is politics in the show, I think the protagonist, Burnham, will be the Trump-supporter. Maybe she'll "see the error of her ways" or something. I don't think so though. I don't think the show has anything to do with modern politics though. These are all themes that have been around since ancient times.

"the ship design was intended to be more shiny than even Next Generation and this is a decade before Kirk so they should actually seem somewhat like Kirk's ship."
This is always the problem with prequels. It was true of Enterprise. I can forgive the shiny look-and-feel, but I don't want to see things well-established as being from the future, things like holodecks, intra-ship beaming, Romulans.

Well we did watch the first episode and I admit there was no "smoking gun" in what was going on, perhaps a hint due to Klingon nationalism.

I don't understand why they needed to do yet another design on what Klingons look like, they didn't redesign the humans! Having the change from original Trek made sense because of the ability to improve makeup, but they had a nice Klingon look and culture down in the following shows and no need to redesign.

And, the ship design was intended to be more shiny than even Next Generation and this is a decade before Kirk so they should actually seem somewhat like Kirk's ship.

And the plot and dialog was terrible. They acted like squabbling high school kids rather than Starfleet.

Only watched the first episode, will not be signing up to watch more. And I'm a Start Trek fan, went to a convention in 1975 watched it all.

You've had lots of good efforts, and more to come;^)

Just like to point out the hipocracy maybe not my best effort.

C'mon D, now you're quoting the propaganda arm of the PC state criticizing a successful business promotion.

Unfortunately I suspect she filled his head with statist rubbish and guilt for being a successful businessman. She was an effective double agent.

I would be fine if these particular players would just bend over and grab their ankles like the girly men they really are. This all has nothing to do with police brutality, white supremacy or any of the other BS claimed causes and everything to do with being led like sheep to the slaughter house by the liberals they follow. What bothers me the most is if we gave gave both the left and right hand grenades to pull the pins on I would be on the side digging the graves and I hate digging!

No problem with Ted Turner being with Hanoi Jane as long as he would have kept her mouth full.

Yes, I'm boycotting the NFL and I am glad all of the nonsense happened. It brought to a point what ESPN and the other lefty networks are shoving down our throats at each game. I say cut them all off and do away with scholarships, let them eat cake (the networks). Here's a little look into the future with a prediction of what the idiots in the NFL will do next. A game will be played and one team will lay down for the entire game because of some point they want to push. The final score will be 150-0 and the fans will leave the stadium in droves. It will happen, it's their best way to crush the game. Sad day in America.

UN annuity gift Tax dodge ripoff donation to the statists. Turner deserves no respect. Chop Chop.http://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/18/sports/bas...

Its now an advertising game to see how long people will sit there and watch inane ads just to see a few minutes of sports. I think this might break the cycle and get people to stop wasting their time feeding this pastime which has grown out of control

good point actually. they are just people, not gods. Many of my favorite actors and actresses have opened their mouths to reveal how irrational and stupid they are. I no longer have any desire to watch their acting now. I dont boycott; I just dont have any interest in seeing what they do.

We expect the NFL players to report for work (the game) and do their job, not take time off to voice unresearched opinions during game time. Completely out of line. If an actor holds up production to express a tissy fit, they get called on the carpet for wasting money, lots of it. If a doctor stops in mid-surgery, to express an opinion, someone could die. If a cop stops to sound off, the idiot needing Narcam will die. There is a propter time and place, and the football field is not the place to act like sheep to spout some Marxist rhetoric, to trash our country, to express "solidarity", which is Marxist in nature.The NFL has allowed people to do what state workers would be fired for doing, and fans have paid big money not to see it.It is about value for value, and that is being compromised by there morons.

Interesting comment stream, klingons to 9 year olds. In a totally unrelated issue, a local 1st grader just made the news by taking a knee in class during the pledge... seems that is the goal of the communist groups orchestrating these actions.

There is not a game played in an arena that's worth the price. Hundreds of dollars? You gotta be kidding. A thousand dollars for family of four with a few concession stand items? Get outta here.For that price I don't care if I ever go to another game. In addition, they are going to insult me by insulting my country and disdaining my patriotism? They can take their foot ball, or baseball or tennis ball and shove them up past the kidneys.

If only Ted Turner had rejected Hanoi Jane perhaps CNN would have remained more objective. That was lost when Ted sold his companies to Time Warner and I'm sure Jane was instrumental in that decision as well as his donations to the UN.

I stopped watching the MSM years ago, even before it was fashionable. When CNN first arrived, it was fresh and relatively objective, but unhappily it began sliding, and now is the worst of the propaganda bullhorns. So far, Fox news is less stilted and biased than all the others, so it's my one broadcast news source.

I also am very selective about which movies I watch, as there are certain actors or actresses I refuse to give my cash to. The last Jane Fonda movie I watched was Cat Ballou, e.g.

When Kelloggs announced support for climate change efforts, I cut them off my grocery list.

I guess I'm a hardline boycotter.