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Census to include citizenship question

Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 8 months ago to Culture
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California is fighting this - of course - because they want representation (in the House and Electoral College) they can control (i.e. illegal immigrants). Representation should be ONLY from US Citizens - not illegals or visitors.


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  • Posted by NealS 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course the census does not ask about "Illegals", it only asks if you are a citizen. A "No" answer does not mean you are here illegally.
    What's the real issue, it's do everything in your power to make it hard for America to succeed under a Trump administration, no matter what. I would guess the left would let North Korea go nuclear as long as it made Trump look bad. How can the people be so fooled and act so stupid because of these politicians? What do the people actually get out of it? It's all for and about the politicians, they could give a hoot about anything or anyone else, even this country.
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  • Posted by Solver 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Imagine that California did create its own nation. Leftists from other states would flood in to forcefully remove the diseased parts. Respect would be law. A new political party would be formed. It would likely be called, the National Socialist Kalifornia Workers Party.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are reports that much of the rest of the State would like to leave the metro areas to their own designs...
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That would be hilarious. Probably not legal, but hilarious. And if the estimates were done on actual thinking people... ;)
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  • Posted by maxgeoac 7 years, 8 months ago
    Why was California the 1st to file a lawsuit on this issue? Why are they worried about having fewer representatives in Congress and get fewer federal funds? I thought they were going to Secede?
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  • Posted by Ben_C 7 years, 8 months ago
    Simple solution - census is in English only. If the democrats object then the argument can be made that clearly their agenda is to inflate the census numbers with illegals (which obviously is the case). I would live to hear the MSM rationalize the census in other languages.
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  • Posted by NealS 7 years, 8 months ago
    I think the Feds should completely skip the census for California, and just estimate the numbers (like Obama wanted to do). Then they could drop some of their fruitcakes and lose representation based on the lower estimates.
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  • Posted by GaryL 7 years, 8 months ago
    I suppose we should all care if illegals refuse to submit their census forms or state if they are here illegally. Like with stronger background checks for gun purchases. I am pretty sure that illegals, criminals and gang member don't submit to background checks before they purchase or obtain their guns.
    Democrats will always take a strong stance on weak issues whenever it comes down to their voter base. The definition of Anti American!
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They want to fight trump all the way. Its a waste of time, and makes our legal system seem pretty stupid.
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  • Posted by term2 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    illegal means they have broken our laws to come here. they shouldnt be allowed to vote or be counted. they need to GO
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Accumulating power by any means necessary is all the wannabe commie Jackass Party cares about.
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  • Posted by Solver 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Where is your compassion for people who want to violently overthrow this country at our expense?
    /s
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They aren't citizens. They can't legally vote. They can't be legally represented in Congress. If they are included in one's representative count, it replicates exactly what mccannon01 is pointing out: that this is no different than the 3/5th's Compromise: the "slaveholders" (those taking advantage of illegals) are getting excess voting power while the individual illegals get what? Handouts from the rest of us!
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There's no question about it: illegal immigrants count toward representation. The issue is not whether to count them but that Democrats fear that the question itself will keep illegals from filling out the census.
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    Posted by mrdenis 7 years, 8 months ago
    Democrats only care because they count on illegal aliens to boost their Congressional representation.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    lol. Yup. It's an oxymoron up there with "military intelligence", "honest politician", and several others!
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sane judge? Isn't that an oxymoron in the days since Judge Narragansett ... disappeared?
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  • Posted by mccannon01 7 years, 8 months ago
    I think our country went down a similar, but not quite the same, road in its past. That is, pre-Civil War slave state Democrats wanted slaves counted in the census in order to gain additional representation in Congress, even though slaves were denied the vote. I ask, "what's next?" a 3/5ths illegal immigrant compromise? I suspect the communists ... uh, I mean Democrats... could use this to swing the electoral college more to their liking as well. The ploy is the same even if the people being exploited by the Dems as a means to the end are different. I agree, blarman, non citizens shouldn't be allowed to vote, nor should their numbers be counted to gain more representative power for those that do.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    For which any sane judge will immediately toss them out for lack of standing. So of course the Ninth Circuit will be the one to uphold the lawsuit and get overturned by the Supreme Court.
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  • Posted by Solver 7 years, 8 months ago
    Here come the lawsuits, because non US citizens shouldn’t have to admit they’re non US citizens.
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