Police crime labs ROUTINELY produce fake science, fake “positives” to convict innocent people

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years ago to News
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People of No Conscience are everywhere!

"In addition to all the potential wrongful convictions, these cases have also cost a lot of money and manpower to sort out. Of course, there are upstanding technicians who do good work every day. However, it’s disturbing to think that just one person can have so much power over the fates of thousands of people. If this many corrupt workers have been caught acting this way; how many others could be making careless or intentional mistakes on the job, sampling the drugs seized, and sealing people’s fates while high or trying to further their own careers?"


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  • Posted by $ 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Government by it's nature, is dangerous. That's why our forefathers tried to limit it's constitutional functions.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    We would never stand for google , Amazon, or apple to set the laws and then enforce them with tools like this, but people seem mistakenly to think government is some sort of angel
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Besides my family-----
    it is really weird to realize that some of my best friends are those that I've never laid eyes on.
    Thanks. I'll keep going, I can be stubborn you know. I was due to be born on July 4th but didn't make my appearance until July 7th. My mom labored for 3 days. (Pre Cesarian era). She told me relative to that event, "You were always stubborn from the very start.".
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    For now, the time and expense for these tactics limit their use to serious violent felons, not everyone with a warrant. However, once AI takes hold, the cost will be minimal. If you can, revisit Person of Interest TV series to see how dangerous this can get.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Scary to think not showing up for a minor traffic ticket could get you pulled out of an airport and arrested. So many things are illegal these days
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Already in practice in major metropolitan centers. The NYPD uses facial recognition at major airports and subway stations to try to track fleeing suspects.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    True...incentivize accuracy, not speed, not work load finished...just get it right no matter how it comes out. These people never think about what if THEY were at the other end of the equation.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 years ago
    Incentives needs to be correct, not to support convictions. People invariably follow incentives, and non-incentives are set aside. INVARIABLY.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Not to mention: choosing educated people for the jury because they will believe, cart blanch, the prosecutor as opposed to choosing, so called, uneducated people because they will demand scientific evidence.
    Scientific Evidence?! that would ruin the prosecution!...Persecutors can hardly remember their own names and have servants to tie their shoes.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Phoenix did the traffic cam thing, and fortunately it was soundly hated by enough people they had to remove them. I had sworn never to go to Phoenix while they were operational. It seemed every time friends went there, they got tickets from the cams.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years ago
    There is much wrong with our legal system. Besides phony evidence, badgering people into pleading guilty to offenses they never committed just to avoid a mountain of legal costs is a common tactic (being used right now in the Mueller investigation, with Flynn pleading guilty to lying to the FBI, when not one agent can recall him ever lying).

    One of the most evil elements of our legal system is the use of grand juries. In a grand jury, only the prosecution can present evidence, and only prosecution witnesses can testify. The prosecution selects the jury, and rest assured they don't pick rocket scientists. As one jurist said, you can indict a ham sandwich in a grand jury. I maintain it is an unconstitutional entity meant to establish a presumption of guilt before trial. The accused is assumed guilty unless proven innocent.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    i wonder how long it will be before they try this here in the USA on a massive scale. Between cams and facial recognition and number plate automatic identification, it makes you want to stay home in a faraday cage !
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years ago
    Holy Sh-t! Betwee you and Dobrien, I'm gonna be afraid to get out of bed in the morning. However, there's a good side to this. The two of you pique my interest so strongly that I must get up, read up and act up. You could say that at my age (almost 84) you're keeping me alive. When I hit 80, I figured I could go at any minute. You guys have screwed up that possibility.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 6 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, converted to corruption. This is pretty much what I felt moved to write until I saw you wrote it. +1.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years ago
    On Netflix there is a series called "caught on camera" about how all the street cameras are used in London, where crime is apparently flourishing (probably due to their socialist and globalist leanings). When you go out in London, you are being watched for ANY possible infraction (and most things are determined to BE infractions !!). I dont think I even want to GO there to visit actually.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 6 years ago
    Not sure of the relevance, but I was amazed to learn, at a neuroscience PhD party, how many grad students and professors had taken all manner of drugs, especially hallucinogens: LSD, DMT, Ayahuasca, etc.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 6 years ago
    BTW, this is why SCIENTISTS use 2 or more labs with the samples.

    This stuff would have been caught quickly when those labs did not match.

    Even with Data Entry. We had 2 groups of people keying the same data in the same order.
    Only if both people got all the same answers did we push them through. This made us like 99.999% accurate. All things where the 2 did not agree went to a third person who keyed them and only then was shown the 2 previous answers so they could confirm (O and 0 being a common issue, etc)...

    Anyways, a simple protocol. Test twice. In 2 different facilities. If the results do not match, ask serious questions... Fire people.

    And for Gods sake. DRUG TEST the Drug Testers, LOL...
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