I hear you...

Yeah, living in a society makes my governance a bit limited to my property line, and sometimes not even that.

That IS, the basic unit of Government...but also, we can't forget an even more basic unit...An individual Mind.
But one first,.. has to have one...not many these days, nor throughout history have had one.

One comment I would make is that the authority of the President is directly linked with the size and number of bureaucracies created by Congress. The power of the President would revert back to what the Founders had in mind were we to disassemble many of the bureaus which currently make up our Federal Government.

That's what a Kakistocracy is...

No mysticism here, That would be: being moral out of fear of unseen forces...that was Bicameral man (humans), or one taught by those that have organized these understandings or teachings in a bicameral way...instead of...(as in the beginning of becoming conscious, aware of one' own behavior), because it's the right thing to do in your own self interest...regulate the harmful temptations of the bicameral brain.
Morality in the latter sense would be: Not worshiping a person, place or thing, but just appreciating one's existence, Not taking money from georgie sorass to spew lies and cause chaos or taking a life that meant you no harm, and last but not least, selling a product that will not perform as you advertise or worse yet, will actually do harm. [Just a few examples]

As I have studied and observed...even a conscious human, (unicameral/(having a Mind)) with reasonable control of his own behavior still battles the desires of the bicameral brain.

It's a battle for control.
The brain, compartmentalizes survival information and Automatically controls the necessary functions of the body, not to mention, is attracted to sweet and pleasurable things and in rare individuals... wishing to harm others for it's own pleasure.

There is a problem, though, when you start to define "moral" as including only those why believe in mystical religion.

There's not much we can do about that, unless we are going to draft people into it against their will, but to watch and try to make sure we don't vote for those who are too much motivated by powerlust; and to limit their time in office--for instance, the 22nd Amendment.

Well, I can't go along with the idea that there should be no government at all. Neither do I believe in Original Sin. I do believe, however in this: Government is an agency of force. Are you ever justified in using force? Yes. When somebody has used force against you. Or is in the process of using it, or is getting ready to use it (as, for instance when his fist is coming at you),or has threatened or is threatening to use it. And that is what justifies government. And the proper functions of government are: to protect man (generic term; includes woman and child) against force (including fraud) and violence, and to punish same. Which can justify the legislature, the executive (to carry the laws out), the law courts, the police force, and the military; registration of property (for instance, Bureau of Patents and Copyrights) that it be not stolen, and registration of contracts (including marriage contracts) that they be not violated. And that's about it.

Me dino thinks I like FEE~
https://fee.org/resources/the-xyz-s-o...

Thank you.

In process control parlance, the proportional control (P) should be quite low when governing people; politicians like to control people (i.e. high P).

"They, (those that would govern), govern themselves the least, that is why they are so bad and corrupt."

Bingo!

"only a moral people, those with a mind to control their own temptations could govern themselves."

Best comment in the thread!

Me dino is unfamiliar with it. I'm in the process of checking it out but I'll have to do it later. Gotta run.
https://fee.org/articles/
I'll come back later to scope this link out.

John O’Sullivan was correct, that is why our forefathers only allowed government to do the one thing it was good at...initiatory force and that it be directed at those that would steal your rights, take your life and make what is civilized,.. uncivilized.

It's funny. Let's turn this around. They, (those that would govern), govern themselves the least, that is why they are so bad and corrupt. That is why they are the mobs of demonocracies and it's all because they have no mind, no conscience and therefore...not human.

It is their own failures to govern themselves that they project onto everyone else. Government is like a magnet to them.

But our forefathers also recognized, that only a moral people, those with a mind to control their own temptations could govern themselves.

What's your opinion of FEE? Thanks!

Me dino heard that saying before.
Such beautiful music! Beautiful truth!

Douglas Adams I think puts it best:
“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”
Though the same can go for any elected official.

I'm the best...I don't govern at all. Just myself and my house. :)

Thanks for that on the author. I did note that it was more a factual article rather than a gotcha! hit piece, which (pleasantly) surprised me.

Good find, blarman ;^)
Note that although this article is on the WaPo site, the author has parted ways with the scum at WaPo and now publishes his articles at reason dot com.

... others. One must govern one's self at all times. ;)

So, he who governs worst, governs...