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Who are the Black Hebrew Israelites and what was their part in the Covington controversy?

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 10 months ago to News
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At the beginning of the video footage you can see that the black Israelite were verbally attacking the indians. The kids ended up in the middle of this, accidentally preventing an escalation of the tensions only to be attacked by both sides.

In 1886, Chattanooga, Tennessee, a former railroad worker named Frank Cherry established the Church of the Living God, the Pillar and Ground of Truth for All Nations. (Yes, that was the full church name.) He mixed together elements of Judaism and Christianity, and believed that African Americans were descendants of the original tribes of Israel. He preached that these Israelite ancestors were chased out of Babylon into central and western Africa where they were eventually sold into slavery by the Romans. He believed that Adam, Eve, and Jesus were black. Cherry also preached that whites are inherently evil and hated by God.


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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The black israelites say the real jews were all black...not true...everyone was brown...they lived in the desert for pete sakes.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 6 years, 10 months ago
    Well, I tried to look at the video on this computer, but I can't say that it really showed much of what happened. I'm not saying it showed a false version, it just didn't show much, period. From what accounts I have heard on the radio, I believe that Sannman behaved in an exemplary fashion. I was looking also at the part about Phillips, but I had to click off, due to lack of time; I need to spend time on this machine looking for a job.
    I have read some before about "black Israelites" in the paper. There was a group,some years ago, in Richmond, which had a sort of black synagogue in the eastern part of Richmond, where I lived. There was an advertisement, with a picture of a black man with a ball and chain on his leg, with "USA" written on it. (Later, that part, or maybe only the initials "USA" was taken off. In the recruiting poster it said (this is a memory quote) "Yahweh loves you, and we do too!" (I doubt that that message was intended to include any white people). But I don't think that that "synagogue" lasted long. I read a remark in the paper (I think it was in a letter to the editor) that the "white Europeans" in Israel were not the true Israelites. And I thought that anyway, the "white European" Jews were the ones who had paid the price. (Though maybe the ones born in Israel now haven't personally been in Europe)
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  • Posted by Lucky 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Response to Chad:
    I do not have that kind of problem with religion. I suppose believers have many problems. Once you are free of that the Bible becomes of interest as (poor) history, and as expression of thinking of those times.

    The Old T is full of arguments and complaints from the characters to God, these are responded to sometimes with logic but more often with a reminder of who is in charge. The reader can get the idea that there is power that must be recognized, quite different from worship.

    Thus, I throw in this idea- the Old T is not propounding religion (belief, faith). It invites questions about the human condition, and about power which can be interpreted as the laws of nature which are to studied and used (and obeyed) in order for humans to achieve their goals.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True enough. But employees today are purchased in a way also, but more for their brains now than before. I wonder as industrialization and automation became more prevalent if slavery would have died out anyway. Keeping people down doesn’t engender creativity
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How about “enticed into it”. In the current climate- better to milk being a victim. Unfortunately what they wish for can become a reality!
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Remember in this case Douglas was not an employee. He was purchased property. At least that was the mind set back then.
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  • Posted by Solver 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed, but I never said the EBS was not prevalent. But they are typically not the puppet masters in this scheme. Many have found themselves yoked to it.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well written and thought out analysis of religion ! It’s so patently stupid that it Must satisfy some very deep and desperate need in people to be accepted so widely
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think entitled black syndrome is very prevalent, fed by white guilt and a desire on the part of young whites to be black as the leftist culture spreads thru the usa
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think you are referring to the old testament...yes, pagan bicameral humans were truly horrible, guided only by an illusionary voice they called god...Julian Jaynes calls that: schizophrenia.
    Inbetween the old and the new, mankind lost the voice, imagine, no voice at all, then a cursory awareness of self which eventually, (for some) the voice of self and conscience, yet, raw and untrained and a 1000 years to work out but still today...60% have failed having never known their mind...Hint: most have ended up in governments of the world... the rest are their pagan flock of useless idiots.
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  • Posted by chad 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was always thought it amusing that religion sold something that it cannot prove exists (heaven) and the only way to find out is to take a journey no returns from and in case your considering not making your payments you are threatened with repossession of your soul (hell) another thing no one can verify has ever happened.
    My biggest problem with religion was its hypocritical conflict with the morality it claims it is the only source for. Lysander Spooner once wrote that if God really did write the bible wouldn't it be written in a way that it would be patently obvious? You wouldn't have to believe it to make it work it would work on its own. The greatest leaders in the bible were truly horrible people with no value for human life or respect for others especially if they were not of their group. Once I realized this hypocrisy could not be reconciled (I thought Thomas Paine did a masterful job of destroying it in the first few pages of 'The Age of Reason') I was done.
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  • Posted by Solver 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think gulity feeling white activists are far more dangerous in this than blacks. Many blacks don’t believe in this nonsense. But they are labeled, “Uncle Toms.” by the illibreals.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    over half the people in the USA who vote, voted for Hillary and the left. That means mob rule will winl
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not the USA...but some creatures within the USA. Lets not blame the entire country, the entire population for the actions of a few that got that ball rolling.
    No one in the colonies knew of the pagan creatures west of them, had our forefathers been around, they likely could of convinced many an indian to join us in the American Experiment.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Here is the skinny on that. As you may have heard about my work; Mankind was Not always aware of his own awareness...we weren't the most virtuous creatures on earth, save for those that may have tried to behaved for fear of something really big that we could not see. (interesting, 60% of the world still is not aware of their own behavior...who would of guessed! (sarcasm)
    Christ was trying to wake our shinny butts up! and teach us to integrate, to listen to our conscience to gain a mind and not get in trouble anymore but if our ascension into the conscious world, the moral, ethical world and care for our selves and others beyond our innate ability for mutuality "was to be so damn easy" there would have been no reason for the concept of "forgiveness" and it played out in a dramatic way...it was his choice to demonstrate that forgiveness in that manner.
    Kind of a clean slate inwhich to start behaving in a conscious human manner instead of a pagan barbarian humanoid manner.
    It's not exactly a news flash to find that many of the creatures we have a problem with just didn't get it but to the conscious, it seems one gets it automatically.

    I get the experience of being in a pagan mass and told by some weird guy in a white dress..."if you don't come to church...your gonna go to hell!"
    HEY! Wait!!!...I didn't know that, no one told me till now! ...but at that very moment, old ugly young carl said to himself...BULLCRAP! I don't believe you any more!
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It may be enticing to keep a class of people "down" so they cost less to employ, BUT it is very short sighted. If you are going to have an employee, better to have a really smart and educated one so you can get the best outcome from hiring them in the first place.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I posted a similar story about Fredrick Douglas. It was about his "owner" not wanting his wife teaching Douglas how to read because it made his "people" begin to think for themselves.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This preaching saying blacks can't be racist has been going on for decades. It was part of the beginning of the "New Jim Crow" that began in the '70s. The name Leonard Jeffries of City College in NYC comes to mind as the originator - or at least was one of the earliest promulgators of the ideology.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As I understand it, the 3/5ths law was a compromise. Before that it was a 0/5th law, so blacks didnt count at all. Full slavery elimination wold have required 5/5, so they compromised on 3/5.

    That push westward was pretty much of an evil land grab on the part of the USA. And the civil way was an attempt to PREVENT the south from just doing a BREXIT thing.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I cant say that I am well versed in anything other then what was pounded into me during the weekly indoctrination sessions at the church when I was a kid. I am thankful that they failed to get me with the guilt trip of the crucifixion so that I would have trouble throwing it all off.
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