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Posted by deleted 6 years, 6 months ago to Culture
Hey, y'all! Why don't we celebrate abortions? Like with baby showers! Have a party! Sing and dance! Wheee!
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No, what they did was sacrifice individuals for a greater good.
Which is what the anti-abortionists are advocating.
"Isn't that what the Left always does...take something good and kill it?"
No, the left are altruists.
Which is why anti-abortionists are on the same side as them.
"Those slightly right of center, mystical of not, would never make people into cattle nor sheeple."
Then you must agree abortion should be perfectly legal.
Now me dino has heard everything.
Excuse me, I have a flight to catch with Peter Pan.
Isn't that what the Left always does...take something good and kill it?
Those slightly right of center, mystical of not, would never make people into cattle nor sheeple.
Like I have often said: Forward...back to the days of Babylon...now we have a word for that.
Thank you.
To grouse against those who defend women against the irrational, barbaric practice of forcing them to bear children they don't want because of objections to welfare statism is a vicious, irrational package deal far worse than guilt by non-association.
So is the attempt to tie that bizarre New Age academic's book to defending the right of abortion, along with the vicious tying of its "sacraments" to women who choose to have abortion.
The claim that such fringe nonsense demonstrates "abortion is a sacrament to many on the political left" is false. Even the left doesn't follow that. To then try to excuse the strawman by saying "the entire socialist movement is ridiculous" misses the difference between a serious movement driven by serious ideas that are wrong and a crackpot with little influence, dredged up to try to dismiss with false guilt by association all kinds of serious defense of the right of abortion.
What am I supposed to conclude from that?
What argument does this invalidate?
Forcing someone to provide for the life of another, whether they be a stranger or not is, in principle, the exact same thing.
"And...wow! How someone can attempt to make a direct connection between pro-life conservatism and socialism...it almost leaves me speechless."
It's amazing how amazed you are about having such basic dots connected for you.
If you think you can force someone to carry to term, then what argument do you plan to use against forcing people to merely pay for things they don't support?
No argument is possible. You are on the same side as socialists.
So yes, today's political discourse is a farce of progressives vs very clueless conservatives, who don't seem to understand that they are on the same side, for very fundamental reasons.
They are all altruists and collectivists and agree that individuals should be sacrificed for the greater good.
The reason you don't think that combo makes sense is because you have not learnt to integrate.
To be right wing, is to stand for individual rights, rights protecting government and capitalism.
Today's conservatives are religious/traditionalist collectivists. Like all collectivists, this makes them leftists.
They want to ban abortion for these collectivist reasons.
So, not understanding that politics is about individualism vs collectivism, makes one politically illiterate, and opposing abortion makes someone a leftist.
So, taken together, politically illiterate, leftist.
I know that this isn't what you hear from the mainstream discourse, but the mainstream discourse is hopeless.
Not only are you calling me that, that combo does not make any sense.
A religious leftist would be a Catholic abortion supporter like Nancy Pelosi.
And...wow! How someone can attempt to make a direct connection between pro-life conservatism and socialism...it almost leaves me speechless.
If you understood socialism, at all, you would realize that forcing ME to pay for a woman's abortion IS socialism, pure and simple.
Everything you're saying is simply incorrect.
You may as well have not responded.
"And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable."
Your continued, feigned ignorance, is intellectually dishonest and tiresome.
I don't have to explain a thing to someone like you.
Any doctor worth a crap would be immediatly resuscitating--not wasting time asking for permission.
Letting a baby die when one has the means to at least try to keep it alive is the same as committing murder.
You need to learn how to integrate your ideas and resolve contradictions.
Once you do that, you'll see that the anti-abortion position is not on the opposite side from socialist positions.
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