this past election shows ideology is not enough

I do not think secession is the answer. The answer is to fight. Not with physical violence, necessarily, but I mean ideologically. To fight intellectually; to fight to stop the kind of indoctrination that is taking place in schools, for instance. And it isn't only in one state of the other..And a lot of people are religious Fundamentalists who want to set up a theocracy, and that is not an acceptable alternative, either. But the thing to do is to fight them intellectually.

I’ve always thought that if you want to be free learn to live well in the places nobody else wants to live.
Liberals seem attracted to large bodies of water. That Florida is as red as it is amazes me.

And your friend can't have a bank account, a credit card, rent a car, buy anything on the internet.
Loss of modern conveniences is why so few people will take that step.
We are slaves to convenience and the supply of goods from corrupt companies who see us as useful only as consumers.

Good point! I too would rather live in an ugly place with beautiful people.

Let them have the beautiful scenery.
We'll be happy in the coal mines, copper, silver, tin, lead, gold mines, oil fields,
flat farms of grain, and the ugly port cities on the Gulf and Atlantic.
Let the aesthetes preach socialism, freeze and starve.

He's a puppet.
Why would the traitors in the Deep State want to impeach their puppet?

Just like Colorado, the mountainous areas that include big ski resorts tend to be liberal. I had a home near Winter Park, and Grand County was extremely liberal. If a place is beautiful, liberals soon turn it ugly.

Apparently there are large numbers of people who LIKE crime and runaway inflation. Prepare yourself and your family accordingly.

Maybe where all the people who left California are going.

It has always been suspicious to me, that elections are so close, usually within +/-2%. That just doesn't seem right to me. How can it be that half the country is Good, and the other half Evil, and each half thinks the other half is the problem?

Just the existence of this situation tells me something else is afoot. Is this the two hemispheres of the human brain manifesting itself? The creative side and the analytical side?

A human being needs both sides to live a healthy life. We cannot be only creative, or only analytical. A balance?

But in the end, I don't see D vs. R.
I see Politicians vs. People. That's the real fight. Once it is too late to save our society, the Politicians will run away screaming with the People at their heels.

I have a friend who rescinded his American Citizenship status and became an American State National. Now he has given up his right to vote, and to pay Federal taxes. It's a small step. He still has to pay gasoline tax, property tax, school tax, state taxes. But no Federal income tax.

It's a small personal secession.

WTF is the deal with Western Montana?!?!? My God!

Why is it all we heard during Trump's tenure was 'Impeach, Impeach...even '25th Amendment' and I haven't heard 'Impeach Biden and certainly not mention of the 25th Amendment. Is Biden that special. It's shocking to see the red wave over our country and yet we have no control at all over what is happening to our country.

Better to die (armed and fighting for liberty) on my feet, than to live chained on my knees.
Still better to make the enslaving treasonous enemy die by hanging or by arms in pursuit of liberty.

My opinion voting has been corrupted for fifty years. They have just refined it with machines and computers to make it palatable for the media to present to the ignorant masses to swallow. The deep state is so deep it is an abyss. China + The Cartels hold the US Government by the throat ($$). Illegal immigrants are the cash commodity and you do not mess with that. If you do you are out or dead. The other side of the coin is big pharma. Same thing. $$. Don’t mess with them. You’re out or dead.