They automatically are entitled to a liberal pass.

The main reason I posted this is because the Chinese government wants to sue the US for carbon emissions ex post facto but they can't account for their own coal (the main source of power) use even within 17 percent. It's a joke!

An enterprising John Galt would've found a way to use CO2 as a fuel for his generator. For some reason, I have yet to see any effort going in that particular direction.
Of course, using up mass quantities of CO2 would virtually guarantee the rapid deforestation of the planet, which would eventually kill us all.
Hey...none of us is getting out of this, alive, anyway.

Well, this is what happens. People want to con-
rol other people, and make it impossible for man to
be free and survive, and anything that interferes
with that is to be mown down. And if facts disprove
the policy, such facts are to be ignored. The policy being, "If a thing doesn't suit you, lie a-
bout it."--This kind of behavior is not confined to
environmentalists, nor did it originate in the late 1960's, with the environmental movement. It al-
so exists with gun-control advocates, who just
won't accept that murderers somehow can't be
counted on not to do illegal things; schoolteach-
ers and others, who want children not to hit back
if someone hits them, advising them to go to
authority for justice which they won't get;people
who think that goods should all be put into one
common pot, and that all participants can be
counted on to contribute "according to [their] a-
bility"; having faith will enable you to know that
a thing is true, regardless of the evidence or lack
thereof; etc.

On that you are correct....that was a bald faced lie....you know what confused me was that unlike the normal Democrat, he has actually told the truth on occasion. Compared to someone like Bill Clinton.....who would tell a lie if the truth worked better....Obama's few slip-ups where he spoke the truth, makes him appear to be a paragon of virtue!

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
"If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan."
"Obamacare will save the average family $2000 per year."

Nope - he's an outright liar. What amazes me is how many people in the media were willing to let it pass when it happened. Compare that to their vendetta against Ben Carson and a statement from 40 years ago... Absolutely no hypocrisy there... NOT!

I forgot this excellent example. You are making my argument for me, although I suspect that you and I are not actually arguing here but merely discussing differences in how we perceive that the Devil operates, I think we do not disagree that he is evil.

in view of the fact that the globe is not warming
no matter how much co2 is spewed into the atmosphere.

A second thought. If you think O does not lie most of the time, listen to one of his speeches.
If you can stomach it, I think you'll change your mind.
Once he said, "Republicans want dirty air, dirty water" as if Republicans do not have kids. .
This year will be the hottest one ever also. Just like last year was. And the one before it . . .

I don't think he generally tells the truth, though sometimes he does, such as when he as a candidate told "Joe the Plumber" that "I want to spread the wealth around."
That admission frightened his coddling commies in the media so much that they had to dig up background negatives on (he only asked a question) Joe as if the plumber without a license was the one running for president.
That whole thing totally amazed me,.

What?
You play poker with lying dictators and expect them to not cheat? Are we really that naïve? And worse yet, we're so afraid of them that we let them get away with it.
Get me some Prilosec.

As much as a hate the currant occupant of the white house.....I will have to defend him on the lying issue. He generally tells the truth...ie"I will fundamentally change America" Or how about this zinger... "well maybe she has just had a good life" [an honest answer he gave during the election when asked about death panels and an 81 year old lady getting a pacemaker] He actually generally tells the truth but the press just seems to lets the crazy Marxist crap he spouts it slide by and the bulk of the populous never questions anything a political leader says, unless the press makes a cause celeb about it.

That is an explanation for what happens when Obama moves his lips.

Well there is a shocker...communists lie!

only 17 percent? . we fake numbers far worse than that --
heard about unemployment lately? . 95 million able-bodied
folks are idle, and it's only 5 percent of 320 million ...
or some other smaller number. . sh!t, 5 percent of 320 million
is only 16 million -- and we have 95 million idled. -- j

Geeeeeezzz, I thought they were so proficient in math!

Exactly. It's a ploy.