Stronghold In the US? Maybe Think Again

Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago to Government
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Pirate has posted about this courageous woman's battle before, but the city's determination to force her out, begs the question-off the grid stronghold in the US?

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  • Posted by gonzo309 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You might want to rethink that Robbie. You don't want to admit your supporting religion, do you? 8-)
    Besides the IRS will hold up your tax exempt status while they review your eligibility to think for yourself and comment on societal conditions. Should take then about 3-4 years to do that.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmm. Houston's not really to my liking, but if there's one place in Texas, I'm guessing there are more.
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  • Posted by gonzo309 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All these international laws are Agenda 21 being adopted by municipalities under the guise of sustainable development. They (UN) have come up with a manual of laws to be implemented by all governmental units to standardize the wording everywhere. Links and videos are available for those that want to followup and learn about it. It's like a cancer spreading unnoticed until it's too late.
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  • Posted by Ranter 11 years, 9 months ago
    The other problem was that her home was within the municipal boundary, so she had to comply with the municipal codes, which had adopted the International Codes, an American body of codes designed to be internationally available. Virtually all states east of the Mississippi have adopted the International Codes. Under the resulting municipal regulations, she must connect to sewer and water, but is not obligated to use them. Her power source must be approved for safety reasons.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 11 years, 9 months ago
    The flaw is in the highly centralized, obsolete model we use for habitation today, driven by 19th century ideas of industrialized society. Better distribution of population, which is easier in today's high power communication era, reduces pollution, spread of disease, crime, and improves security. Widely distributed power sources and communities are easier to enable better use of renewable power and actually improve the natural environment. However, it also drains political power from the big population centers, which is why trying to evolve to a more sensible social architecture will be resisted at every turn.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmmm. Want to be my "High Priestess of the Gulch non-denominational, non-sectarian, good times, rock-n-roll, church?"
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    nope. not on land and buildings they own. They do have to pay them if they are leasing and it's part of a lease agreement.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 9 months ago
    I don't have any problem with the lady seeking to live on her own, and off all governmental interference.
    However, when she uses utilities that were installed using community funding, but refuses to reimburse those costs, then that seems to be a moocher to me.
    Plus, did anybody read the whole article? She has a history of "looting" from others. Not the poster child of resistance of government oppression that I'd pick.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Are you sure? I think that they still have to pay property tax. Just not income taxes. I'll check on my local church.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    well, religious organizations don't pay any property tax and they own millions of acres of land.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 9 months ago
    Apparently she was using the city's sewer system without paying for it, so the capping was justified. You want to use a city service? That's fine, but you need to pay for it. There's no such thing as a free lunch. She had solar panels, so she could have worked out some kind of deal to sell power to the city's power plant, and then used the proceeds to pay for her usage of the city's sewer system. If she doesn't want to do any of that, she can dig a hole and build an outhouse. I agree that the city was wrong to try and declare her residence uninhabitable, but they were not wrong to cap her access to the sewer system.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, they can't. At the very least you are going to have to pay property taxes, as I don't know any municipality that doesn't tax real-estate. If there's somewhere out there, please let me know.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    you are right she was using the waste water part of the service. But what sewer bill is thousands of dollars for 2 years? The court found her not guilty.
    "the city found her not guilty of refusing to use the city sewer, not guilty of violating codes related to her use of solar energy and guilty of not using an approved water supply. "
    this all stems back to the water supply. That's why the bill is in the thousands
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think she is. The rule she violated was not paying for utilities. They are witholding the other service until she connects up.
    No, I didn't notice that. One of those North American laws sanctioned by the UN?
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 9 months ago
    How many noted the city's letter to the attorney citing "INTERNATIONAL (my emphasis) property maintenance codes" as part of the complaint?

    But I think the sewer is a loser for her. If she uses the service, she should pay for it.
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