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Time for Gary Johnson to seize the moment

Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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With Cruz dropping out tonight, there are no main party candidates left who behave in accordance with the Constitution. If there is ever a time for someone else to rise up, now is the time. I doubt it will be seized, however.

The GOP RINOs would not allow my county's elected GOP chairman, a Tea Partier, participate at the Florida GOP convention a few years ago. The Florida GOP RINOs also were largely responsible for John McCain getting nominated in 2008. The GOP establishment is now getting its just desserts.

GOP - Rest in Pieces

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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, if change were in the cards, it will come at the grassroots level! Neighbor to neighbor, district by district, county by county, etc. Now is the time to start really talking to your friends, family and neighbors about substantive issues and work for change at the local level. The rest will take care of itself!
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's the first time in my life I have ever been accused of being on the "left." Why in the world do you think the Rules Committee is going to do anything anti-Trump at this point?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh it isn't in this portion or the thread? Form a coalition of the unrepresented and disaffected ....LP isn't strong enough on it's own they might by a positive action gain that needed strength if they are up to it. If not they aren't worth it.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 3 months ago
    The Republican party Establishment can take full responsibility for this Trump travesty! If they did what they were supposed to do in 2010, 2012 and 2014, there would be no Trump to discuss. However, because the leadership ship (I.e., McConnell, McCain, Boehner, Ryan, Gramsci, etc.) were so feckless and weak kneed, we are now witnessing the death throes of the Republican party. Good bye and good riddance, it is where it is supposed to be because of leaderships abject failure! The Trump Republican party is now the recreation of the 1854 Whig party, all but defunct! Truth be told!
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What more do you want them to do without your dough? Check out the platform at LP.org. If you don't like it, fine. If you like it, give them some $$ so they can make the "effort" you desire.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I mean they will support whoever is wearing the red T-shirt regardless of their principles or stands on various issues. Trump will be wearing the red shirt. The Rules Committee will do nothing and the Convention will be a Coronation.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly. If they do disallow Trump based on stolen votes which they can and should and declare an open convention with Cruz having also quit that stirs up the pot enough for some movement discussed elsewhere to do not a third part but a Coalition of the disregarded and unrepresented (46% of the available voters) and that might attract the needed $$ recalling the Koch Brothers. Question is do the Libertarians have the ability to pull it off or would it take some one else?

    The spoiling effect would certainly slice and dice the pundits claims on the outcome and set the stage for the future. IF Democrats also split over Sanders. better yet.

    Ideally the focus should not be on the candidates so much as spoiling their strategies by despoiling their abilities and with luck forcing the numbers on each party down into the dirt.
    No credibility no landslide, no mandate just a general election plurality of somewhere around 20% or less of those actually voting as the winners hardly constitutes anything but a complete lack of confidence in the two formerly major parties. Ergo Sum One of them will disappear.

    See Blarmans comment above.

    Pragmatic solutions of the moment are the road to certain failure for those who can't see beyond their nose and act to spite their face make that fate.

    Right now supporting the rules committee of the GOP by making complaints about your vote for whomever being given to someone else would carry a lot of weight. Recall the GOP doesn't want Trump either. Only a segment of socialism is in his camp. Fine with Waddle, Sanders and Trump splitting the socialist vote and The rules committee dumping Trump a fire storm emerges .....

    Question is who will be the fire department. not those who only preach or debate.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Start practicing saying, "First Dude, Bill Clinton"."

    Ugh. I wonder how many more interns are going to get raped...
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  • Posted by RobertFl 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was taken back by Gary's cake comment at first. But, he did make a point.
    I'm still don't agree 100% with him on that issue, but that's the only flaw I saw.

    McAffee, sorry. He's a software guy. That just isn't enough credentials for me.
    I want to see his veto record. I also think he is BathSit crazy.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As lapdogs of the left they are hardly completely partisan unless you mean pro-socialist. No matter what the la dee la tweetie birds are singing. What is a Priebus and why should I care? All eyes now are on the Rules Committee.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Do you want to get together at the LP Convention in Orlando? I am considering going to the Sat. PM debate. It's only an hour from me.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It would start with a government overhaul. It can't happen as long as a dictator is in power. Dictators are loathe to give up their power - even in the face of total collapse.

    In Venezuela's case, I think what would have to happen is for their oil industry to face some sort of catastrophe (Ellis Wyatt-style) to take down the income base. If that happened, I think things would quickly degenerate. Then the question would be who would arise to lead a revolution and change.

    One of the things which amazes me about the founding of America is just the character of those men. Here you had people who weren't interested in seizing power over others - an incredibly novel thing no matter what era one lives in. Those men were truly remarkable. I wish we had a similar group we could call on here and now.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They haven't earned it yet. If they made a real effort to form a coalition of the unrepresented that would be one thing but until then ....
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If the Rules Committee accepts all his delegates and that is far from over. So your next queston might be who can smack the doo doo out of hillary in a debate. Go you one better...What female can accomplish that task and remember it's completely open to any once he loses those winner take all votes. No one has the 1237 and they don't allow plurality winners in the convention.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is past the point of salvage. The point where things might have been salvaged was 2012, but Romney had the audacity to admit the truth - that 47% will vote D because it is in their self-interest.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ah, but didn't Boehner (certainly a member of the RNC) call Cruz Lucifer just the other day?
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