Cheap and easy, yes, disposable, no. I find the other half of my marriage to be wanted, and I look forward to seeing him every day. :-) He thinks so, about me as well.

This works both ways.... someone who doesn't mind having someone who's cheap deserves cheap. Have some rigid principals....and by "principles", I mean principles. (Don't be cheap, easy and disposable and you won't be treated as such.)

Did you offend yourself? ;-)

Ooooh. That! Good point.. I hate when I got caught in the minutia! ....wait.... minutia/meandering....? No I take that back. Sometimes I like the minutia. Don't tread on me. (And tea is nice sometimes... I've recently discovered...)

Frankly, I am *NOT* one of those dudes who finds an armed woman sexy... :-O

They normally scare the poop right out of me! and if she looks like she is in "that time of the month," I'll poop things I haven't eaten yet!

The "need" part wasn't the point -- it was the "doesn't mind saying it" that was. If a woman "wants" a man, she can have one -- we are cheap and easy and disposable. At least in the feminist mind.

stupid little rituals which are just camouflage. are we having high tea or discussing what's wrong with our nation! so much is boiled down into minutia that's not importante

ok, occasional guarding is fine. this is kinda funny. I used to play this game in my 20s with my husband. catch me whenever I decide to fall. he warned me, several times.....
and then, one time...

"I will open her door."

Me too!

On left turns, doing about 50.

"I meant at the store..."

So did I.

We shop late at night...more 'parking' spaces!

Needing and wanting are 2 different things. I'd rather be wanted than needed, but that's just me.

A woman who doesn't *need* a man, and not only knows it, but doesn't mind *saying* it, could quickly become a decidedly unpleasant thing to have around the house.

I meant at the store...or somewhere.. Heck mine won't hold mine if I'm driving and his hands are empty in his lap. If I put it in his lap...it goes right on the floor. lol

What's the real point....name it.

You should teach a class :)
I used to get annoyed when my husband wouldn't hold my purse...for just a second even (many years ago, prior to marriage)...but then there were times he wanted me to carry his wallet..in my purse... I was like..UM..wait..you won't hold my purse for a split second but you want me to carry your wallet?? I lost...it's NOT the same thing...but hey I tried. lol My Dad would never hold a purse either...and he had 5 daughters.

Agreed!

That is only piece of the puzzle that we/you need to stop going along with (if you ever did)...PC needs to be killed dead so we can have true, honest, important conversations again. People being scared to say what they're REALLY thinking is only doing us harm. I can't get people to talk about ANYthing important...so they're either scared of being perceived as insensitive or they're complete brain dead rocks without an original thought... either way...it's trouble. THAT's what SCARES ME! (And why the hell are people so damned quick to be offended? I have no tolerance for the easily offended. People need to grow up.) Sorry Spin...popped a cork there.

I will open her door.
I will pull out her chair.
I will walk on the traffic side of the road.
I will carry all of her other carriables.
However, holding a purse is emasculating, and is symbolic of beta-male status.
I believe that a woman who cares about me will not insist on it.
I will gladly guard her purse, but not hold it.

hahahahahaha
and keeping your shoes on

I'm bitter about the BS! there's sooo much of it-and no one gets the real point

"If your wife asks you to hold her purse... do you? "

In the middle of a coital act...'NO'!

I have enough trouble keeping my man purse out of the way....

of course not! why won't you hold a gal's purse? even if she's headed to the retiring room?

After years of censoring speech to conform to political correctness there is little you can get a white man to say on either subject.

lol YES! Then you're one of the few unwussified men left in America :) (Which I already knew of course.)

No.
She no longer asks, she knows the answer.