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'Use-Of-Force' Restrictions Placed On Border Patrol Agents

Posted by khalling 11 years, 5 months ago to News
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Are these new policies to be adopted by local law enforcement officers against the U.S.'s own citizens? WTF is going on?!
Let's just send a big fat message to cartel and terrorists-speed through check points into the country! No one will stop you...


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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Please pass on my high praise for her strong moral fiber! If these emigrants today had a bit of her character, we wouldn't have a lot of the problems we do.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To answer your silly question, no. Funny how you focused in on that, BTW. I can pretty much guarantee I don't blindly parrot (read that as "mooch off of") the ratings-driven scripted position of any of the network-produced infotainment feeds... on any side.

    To be clear... I have no problem with foreigners being here in the US and working... as long as they did so legally, without special programs and politically-based incentives. It's the political wink-and-nod that IMO is pretty damned treasonous.

    Point - I watched a good friend (been here since the 60's, carried a green card all that time, and was a damned productive member of society) get her citizenship a couple years back. She could have gotten US citizenship years ago, after marrying a US citizen. She refused to do so - because she didn't feel she had *earned* her place to have the privilege of being a US citizen.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The welfare state is not enough; there is also the business regulations which make it cheaper to do business by hiring unskilled labor off the books.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To further define what I mean by American exceptionalism, I mean that America was exceptional in its founding principles. As long as America kept to those principles, it was America. Since it has abandoned those principles (for the last 100 years or so), it is now Amepoble (poor America as opposed to rich America). As Francisco d'Anconia once said, "Money is the barometer of a society's virtue." Now ours is worth a lot less.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Legal immigrants" is a redundancy... or the opposite of an oxymoron.

    By definition, an immigrant must be legal.

    You pretty much expressed my view on the subject, without all my emotion-induced vitriol.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Legal immigrants add to the nation. I hire many people from countries other than America, and am glad to do so. I would gladly sponsor citizenship for many of those whom I have hired on student visas. It is the brazen disregard for American sovereignty that I cannot tolerate. If you had people showing up at your front doorstep expecting to be taken care of, you might think differently. By the way, I am not a Republican any longer, and even the American Indians were not always here.

    It is predominantly the free ride I am opposed to. Their free ride comes at my expense. I do not want to support moochers.

    The secondary issue is the dilution of the culture of what was America. These illegal immigrants are being encouraged to migrate here so that they can further the political agenda of Democrat looters by turning Texas and Arizona into blue states. This is the major part of the fundamental transformation of America that Obama promised during his 2008 campaign. These immigrants have no intention of assimilating into the culture of American exceptionalism, and their looter supporters have no intention of them assimilating either.
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  • Posted by Jaysun 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    right an no 'elite Republicans' NEVER EVER had illegals working for them-WOW am I reading Faux News ?
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  • Posted by Jaysun 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    out 'culture' is a culture of immigrants.. the reason our nation is so great is BECAUSE we are a nation of immigrants that add the whole of the nation.. while I don't agree with an illegals getting a free ride I think some of us-*cough Republicans*cough* forget that they too came from immigrants and the Only TRUE 'American's are in fact American Indians
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, she'll "grant them the privilege" to be able to "learn a valuable trade" and "being productive contributors to the socialist labor movement".

    "Hiring" implies pay, which implies training these "new UN-citizens" that one should work for personal gain, rather than the common social good. They should be HONORED to join her view of labor for all for the "good of the (e)state.."...

    Just hit me... THAT'S why the huge push to make these illegals semi-citizens - by removing their "illegal alien" status, they can be put to work for the elite dems, who won't be able to be censured (or fined) by hiring "illegal aliens".
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Soon it will be illegal to...
    1) Speak English
    2) Own your own home.
    3) Live in any structure larger than 100 sq. ft per occupant.
    4) Raise your own children.
    5) Think.
    6) Exist.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Which will soon be their vineyard when the rest of the barbarians cross the Rhine...
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What's wrong with throwing rocks back at someone is that it perpetuates rock throwing.

    Throwing lead bullets at high velocity (with proper training) not only stops the rock throwing of the moment, but indicates to fellow rock-throwers that maybe throwing rocks at border patrol agents might be... unhealthy.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Excuse me, but aren't these illegal aliens throwing rocks at Border Patrol Agents?

    That's not "rebellion against lawful authority".

    That's an act of war.

    At one time, the rock-throwing sling was a weapon of war, btw.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 11 years, 5 months ago
    This is a hard issue for me to take a side on. As an American, I want our borders, language, and culture to be upheld. As someone who has shrugged (albeit partly), I am looking forward to the end of the looter/moocher era, and this is definitely accelerating the decline.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Uh, isn't it just trading one aimed projectile for another? Only real difference is velocity. Both can still maim, wound and kill...

    I think it is the principle of rebellion against lawful authority that makes me feel very little sympathy. You think the people throwing rocks don't have the intention to cause injury - and even death? Do you deny someone the right to self-protection when so threatened?

    I have a good friend who is a Border Patrol Agent. I would hate to see anything happen to him or his family as a result of this crap.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    as an american citizen you will subjected to all sorts of rigorous scrutiny. was just in the 100 mi no man's land yesterday. Only those breaking the law instead of complying will be allowed to
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  • Posted by richrobinson 11 years, 5 months ago
    I am sometimes surprised at what people protest about. I appreciate that ones who lost loved ones are upset. According to the activists 19 people were killed by border agents. How many people have the Mexican drug cartels killed in the same amount of time? How many have illegally entered the US in that time and what percentage have a criminal record?
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  • Posted by Technocracy 11 years, 5 months ago
    Our country puts silly ROEs on the military.

    This idiocy does not surprise me at all.

    Could provoke a strike too.

    Either way the agents of destruction win.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 5 months ago
    So what's wrong with throwing rocks back at someone who's throwing rocks at you. I don't think you need to shoot them.

    But what impact does this have on American citizens within their 100 mi 'No Constitution' border check area?
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  • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    LOLOLOL "waiting for a gang of thugs to roll up and make demands that I can't understand" GHBs! we need a new phrase of the day post!
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  • Posted by robertmbeard 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I say load the unaccompanied children from Central America on buses and send them to Nancy Pelosi's house in San Francisco. Perhaps she would sing a different tune then...
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