Mad Mag. looked into the future and saw...obobo!

Thanks for sharing. I'm not surprised. Your discovery, in some way, feels like it marked the beginning of the end...

Buck-toothed, stupid-looking mascot of MAD Magazine. Google his name for pictures.

Who is Alfred E. Newman?

the goal of govt run schools is to create a loyal citizen....not a critical thinking individual...so far...mission accomplished...one of the exceptions is Debate...i made all my kids take it and participated as judge at all their debates...Debate requires that they debate both sides of the topic and learn to listen and analyse what is being said...and learn the principles of logic and critical thinking...the principles of Objectivism...

As I discovered years ago, researching for my first book...the paradigm was turned upside down in their favor 8000 years ago. There were a few ups and downs, a few exceptions, (Early America being a big exception) but it is still upside down today...in fact, it's so twisted that it's inside out and backwards too...now try untwisting that!

Wasn't the University of Virginia a "State" concern?

Our society continues to devolve, as planned by those who made Reagan retain the Dept. of Education, because they needed it - to brainwash and dump down society to be ready for one world government. When I was in school, we not only read Cicero and Virgil, we translated them from Latin. English included all those dead white men, and we loved them for their talent, whom feminists demanded be removed from curriculum. I am starting to believe there is no reversing the trend. People seem to wear stupidity like a badge of honor, want worthless leaders who will tell them what to do, and hopefully will give them enough to live on. College is a place of "socializing", where learning is secondary, or lower. Knowing about the worlds around you and about politicians, beyond their own words is too much stress and work. Example, the end of US control of the Internet comes Friday night, when Obama passes it to commie handlers. I have yet to ask one millennial who even knows it is happening. Worse, I know only one city council member who does know, no county officials, and almost no bank personnel! For the first time our online exchanges could be censored, religion right now is not proected as a topic, and who knows what China will do with our financial records and what they will hack. Yet, I could not even get thelocal paper to do an article letting people know of the change! We ar in serious trouble as a nation. No one notices that Hillary, acting all condescending and fake smile was all drugged up to avoid seizures and could barely walk away from the podium.Trump did not use reason to ignore her taunts and tell her she was childish, and to stick to debate rules, which the moderator did not do either. It was a circus, not a debate. He should have asked why she approved sale of 50% of the uranium in 4 states to Russia, with Bill brokering the deal and walking away with millions. Nope, Trump went off about women and taxes as she led him off track. Not good.

You can't do that either!...I am an basketaphobe Too!

I suppose he could have given a somewhat sarcastic answer such as the Dali Lama or the Pope. Matthews would then have got himself back into shape and had taken that I-got-you look off his face. I could never be a politician because from an early age I do not wish to look people in the face who are talking to me. I do not want to see any emotional stuff, just hear conceptual ideas. Maybe comes from my mother who would get mad in the face, probably from the malignant tumor that was growing in her brain.

good points!

Moreover, there probably is not a single world leader that deserves his admiration. The very concept of leader (Fuhrer, in German) is a throwback to tribal societies and their chieftains, kings, queens, rulers, dictators, despots, overlords. People still crave to subjugate themselves to an alpha who will get them loot by conquest and protection by might.

America's founders were seeking an enlightened system to free humans from their animal roots. That Gary could not think of one admirable power-wielder is to his credit. Weld's mentioning of Shimon Peres was an inspired move for the Jewish vote. Adding Merkel as an afterthought was for balance. I would not want to name individual heads of state but more the governments that are wise enough to stay out of wars. Say, like Switzerland or Finland, and possibly Denmark; those with a policy of trade, not raid.

Notice that Gary Johnson probably has a far better grasp of world affairs, without having memorized an encyclopedia, and is honest enough to admit not being omniscient, while Trump blusters and swaggers past his own vast ignorance. Vis a vis other countries' leaders, Hillary is a mere sycophant. To me it is more important that a candidate be able to hold the right principles and be able to learn than to win trivia contests. By that measure, Gary Johnson is tops.

You Can't Say That!!
You must be a phoba phobe
We've gotta put you in a basket with the rest of the phobes.

Well, I think Jefferson made a grave mistake in
setting up UVA. Not only is education not part of
the proper purpose of government (except maybe
for police academies, military technical training, and such), as it is not a police function; but, as
it teaches thought processes, it is something the
government should definitely not be in charge of. And I think that Jefferson and other import-
and men of his day were very mistaken not to
realize this.

I like the analogy. At least the chimpanzee could be taught but the robot has already been programed...(maybe we could get it to self destruct?)

Agreed but the logical conclusion I was referring to was the culture and the candidates are not conscious, it's clear, no one in this debate has a conscience, therefore has not a mind...their all just a brain in a body much like bicameral man.

It was a debate between a robot and a chimpanzee. Whoever wins - we lose. However, with the robot, we get an entity that is inhuman with no concern for humanity at all. All the chimp will do is throw shit at us.

I say that the logical conclusion will be determined by the outcome. If one were to use logic, the outcome for the most part is easily predictable.

Obama said what he wanted to do, how he wanted to do it and then for the most part followed through. The end results were arguably quite predictable. What was not predictable was the fecklessness of the "loyal opposition" within the Beltway political class! Outcome reached, logic again won out even though it is a hollow victory.

Now we are heading into uncharted territory whereas the outcome based on where we are will probably end up being tyranny by a despot. That is about where we are wouldn't you say?

Yes...but I do wish Gary was more up on the issues in reality...there IS reality to consider about the border, immigration, islamist, (notice I said islamist not islam) and the TTP, not to mention the rights of association.

My impression of matthews is he went from the boob, right into the news and skipped everything inbetween...probably replaced the boob with booze as well.

Speaking of a 6 year old, Chris Matthews' interview with Gary Johnson showed how juvenile Matthews could become. He asked a kindergarten question of who is Johnson's favorite world leader. Just as children would do as to favorite color, car, movie, book, etc. Who cares about such tripe in a presidential race.
I would have no idea how to answer such a question. I would have asked Matthews if he ever studied math and what is his favorite identity equation in advanced math. Like Johnson he probably would not have had an answer of anything other than maybe 2+2=4 of arithmetic. The game of politics has an unlimited number of questions to destroy a candidate. Most dishonest candidates have ready made answers or can create an answer easily. Gary Johnson is too honest to give a BS answer.

I doubt whether there will be enough energy even for a whimper, probably not even enough for a quiet fading away. Much of the fading is in the form of no longer expending effort in learning past knowledge.

That's the Problem...No one is observing their OWN behavior.
Being able to observe one's own behavior is a sign of Consciousness...so, what's the logical conclusion?

A "dumbed down" nation is guaranteed to end up with a "dumbed down" president and Congress. That is the nature of the animal.

Cicero said that a nation deserved its leaders. Taken to its logical conclusion, if the electorate is lazy, stupid and looking for something for nothing, there will always be a "sleazeball" politician (notice I said politician and not statesman-woman) that will act foolishly and give the "Rubes" exactly what they want regardless of the damage and destruction they are doing to the country and our once great society!

Look into the mirror! We have met the enemy and the enemy is us - getting just what we deserve!

true...

What the hey? Shillary has been propped up her entire life in some form or other.