It's murderrrrrrrrrr

Posted by KevinSmith1281 11 years ago to Government

Judge, jury, and executioner.

SOURCE URL: http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/24/pentagon-official-the-obama-kill-memo-is-out-and-libertarians-were-right-its-murder/

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Posted by coaldigger 11 years ago

“First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—
and there was no one left to speak out for me.”

― Martin Niemöller

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Posted by freedomforall 11 years ago

Prosecute the one who ordered it. There is no immunity and no statue of limitations.
Take them down. No more delays.
(And when that is ongoing how about a real investigation into 9-11, too.)

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  Posted by Robbie53024 11 years ago
  
  But he's likely signed a pardon for himself.
  
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    Posted by freedomforall 11 years ago
    
    Then he has to be convicted in a state court. To paraphrase Glenda, the witch of the north to the witch of the west (sometimes called Hillary), "You have no pardon power here."
    (Except for the non-legal "pull" that we all despise.)
    
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Posted by Robbie53024 11 years ago

It doesn't require oversight as it's blatantly illegal on its face. An American citizen has a constitutional right to due process. NOBODY gets to take that away arbitrarily. If they aren't actively using arms to harm others, then they must be captured, advised of their rights, and then tried in the courts.

This is a "high crime" and should be treated as such.

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  Posted by KevinSmith1281 11 years ago
  
  I would hope that even the most loyal government worshippers would realize the danger and seriousness here.
  
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    Posted by Robbie53024 11 years ago
    
    No, all they believe in anymore is BAMN - By Any Means Necessary. They are not merely above the law, they are beyond the law. Laws do not apply to them.
    
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Posted by rockymountainpirate 11 years ago

I don't think murders will be confined to just citizens overseas either.

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  Posted by KevinSmith1281 11 years ago
  
  I guess they would have needed to begin overseas though, slowly break us in to this sort of thing.
  
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Posted by Bobhummel 11 years ago

Committing acts of war against the U S allows for the revocation of ones citizenship. Our dear leader just wanted to skip an important step in a legal process- but such laws are for lesser leaders. Once the individual is no longer an American citizen, he/she can be designated an illegal combatant under the Geneva convention or as Hostis Humani Generis and taken out with a Lapua or a Predator.
Cheers

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  Posted by Robbie53024 11 years ago
  
  Revocation of citizenship would have been a very easy mechanism to cause this to not be unconstitutional. But that would have taken one to understand the US Constitution, and we couldn't expect a guest lecturer on said document to actually understand it, now could we?
  
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    Posted by KevinSmith1281 11 years ago
    
    Who should determine that an American citizen has committed an act of war against the US? Should we take the government at their word that somebody is a terrorist or has committed an act of war? Should we trust how they define those acts, not only now but in the future. Some members of congress declares the Tea Party to be behaving like terrorists over differences during debt ceiling negotiations.
    
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      Posted by Robbie53024 11 years ago
      
      Those are good points. Luckily, it takes more than just one person or branch of gov't to do so - both the exec and the jud.
      
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      Posted by Bobhummel 11 years ago
      
      That is why there is a legal process for revoking ones citizenship.
      
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        Posted by KevinSmith1281 11 years ago
        
        After re-reading your initial post, it appears I didn't read it correctly at first. My apologies.
        
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        Posted by Bobhummel 11 years ago
        
        no worries mate. On Page 6 of any U S passport is a list of information 13. LOSS OF U S CITIZENSHIP. (2) taking an oath or making a declaration to a foreign state (3) serving in the armed forces of a foreign state ...
        
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        Posted by Robbie53024 11 years ago
        
        Yes, a legal process would have been appropriate. But when you believe you are beyond the law, those become irrelevancies.
        
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        Posted by Bobhummel 11 years ago
        
        And that applies to every action and executive order. What will do the most damage to America's political standing in the world, the national economy (2.9% reduction in growth in Q1), the moral of the military, destruction of personal liberty, rights and responsibility, and the nation as a whole? That is what our dear leader will do.
        
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  Posted by KevinSmith1281 11 years ago
  
  What about his son who was completely innocent and killed in a separate attack?
  
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    Posted by Snoogoo 11 years ago
    
    I think that would make him a serial killer.
    
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    Posted by Robbie53024 11 years ago
    
    "Innocence" has no bearing.
    
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